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It is a great GUI, definitely easy-to-use without being condescending. It is fun to see the Linux under the hood, like in "Task Manager" under "Shut Down", which is really a dynamic "top" of the Unix process table for fellow propeller-heads. I haven't figured out how to get to a Linux command line yet, but give me another day or two... One could also apparently run Microsoft Windows XP SP2 on the Eee as well, but - why? This KDE Linux imlpementation is very smooth and small...
I am having one problem with setting up my wireless access, though - it is complaining that my WPA-PSK key, which is a passphrase that has been working on four other computers for over two years now, is an "Unsupported key format or length!". I have not been able to resolve this issue yet, so although the Eee sees my Wireless-N home network, it will not connect. I will be testing ASUS' user support for this issue.
Browsing the web with a wired connection using FireFox is working fine, as is the "Auto Update" patching feature under "Add/Remove Software". The unit is small, fast, capable, and cheap for what it offers.
Except for my weird WPA-PSK issue keeping me from using the wireless here on my home network, I must say that I already love this Eee. The list of supported hardware included the SanDisk Ultra ][ 1 GB, but I had same in 2 GB - put it in my Eee, and sure enough, it gave me a 1.89 GB fs.
I foresee a lot of fun portability with the Eee, and I may have a hard time giving it up to my daughter once she can start using it - five months may be a little too young, and she has to concentrate on that whole "solid foods transitions" before she starts Googling and going Wiki! ;-)
PROs: Size, Usability, Quality, Price, Extensibility;
CONs: WPA-PSK issue, no direct Linux CLI, more RAM in 8G.
I'm puzzled by Andrew Snyder's comment about not being able to find a command line -- is there no terminal emulator provided? No xterm, konsole...? Can one at least boot to a console? Give me a terminal emulator, elinks, nano and mplayer, and I've got about 4/5ths of what I want from a computer. If the philosophy behind this OS here is "Cli, who needs a cli?" then I can't use it.
How does one update packages? And is the OS (just which Linux flavor is it, anyway?) provided on disk --- ok, there is no optical drive, I know, still one would like to have a backup on hard media to restore the machine from a network if things get messed up... And how's the documentation?
Thanks for sharing your impressions so far -- I hope you keep us posted on your adventures.
I'm glad it's white. I hate white. That'll keep me from impulsively buying it -- even though I really really really want one... (sigh)
Ok, I'm sold. I just hope the supply shortages don't result in any carelessness in putting these things together as the company tries to meet demand. (I got burned by Apple -- which uses a lot of Asus components, I believe -- and I hope Asus quality control is better when their own name is on the box)
Thanks for the comments from those who've used the eee PC. I hope to get into J&R this weekend to try it out in person.
RE: Colors: I've heard Asus is making the eee PC in other colors, such as black, green, etc., but don't know when they'll be available. You might find more info on this and the other models at the official Web site, www.eeepc.asus.com/en/
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=775&a...
Got the EEE yesterday and joined it to a number of WEP networks right away.
I was having a hard time with WPA or WPA2 networks, but I found my problem easily enough - the "network manager" tool didn't like having spaces in the passphrase - the script underneath it would parse the spaces incorrectly and create a munged /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf.ath0. I tested this out on my home access point (wrt54g running dd-wrt), created a WPA passphrase with spaces, " ", and this resulted in the following logs:
Configuring interface ath0=lan4 (inet)
run-parts --verbose /etc/network/if-pre-up.d
Starting WPA wireless connection...
/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/0001xandros-wireless-tools: line 307: [: too
many arguments
wpa_supplicant then fails to start correctly and the connection gets stuck in "Pending" mode indefinitely.
I then replaced the spaces in the passphrase with underscores "_", and problems solved. Connected right away to WPA and WPA2. I haven't bothered testing to see what other characters are parsed poorly, but this is decidedly a software issue rather than a hardware issue.
Cheers,
xeinios
Andrew: Ok on the passphrase with spaces. I'll bet then it would work if you had quoted the passphrase string as that would parse to one argument.
Anna - I will be trying some WiFi in the Wild soon, and will report back my findings: Borders, StarBucks... any other requests?
BTW, I added the two "tweaks" cited in bc's post above: Start menu and Gimp / additional software; both work great!
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsI...
1. Is it possible to remove the built-in OS and install something different, like say, Ubuntu (Gnome ) based. If so how?
2. When they say solid state memory, is it some form of a generic memory card or is bundled into the motherboard and we have no access to it. Same thing with DDR2 memory - can we add more on our own?
3. The description says that it uses a mobile processor. However I wasn't able to find the exact specs for the processor. And how is the fan performance? Three laptops I have owned in the past have had rather noisy processor fans. With such a tiny casing, does the EEEPC have good ventilation, etc.
4. Can it be made to boot from a USB drive in case we want to test drive some OS which allows you to use its features before you install it?
Any info. on these points would be wonderful.
Thanks guys!
I got mine yesterday - it is VERY nice. Quiet, solidly built, runs a bit warm, easy to connect wirelessly to an unsecured user in my building. The info on quotes around the passphrase sounds like this is now a non-issue.
The resident Linux guru at work played with mine and fell in love. It is a customization of Xandros 4 Linux which he said is Gnome based.
There are a bunch of forums around, including how to get to the command line and what variations of Linux installs, etc. I plan have a friend hack mine to advanced mode so I can install GIMP 2.4 photo editing sw, which is very powerful. I may also delete some of the pre-installed sw, to free up space. If I find the links that were helpful, I'll post them.
People have installed XP on a removable SD card - whether you can boot from it I don't know. According to Forbes, Microsoft has a deal to sell XP to Asus buyers for $40.
http://wiki.eeeuser.com/list:othersoftware
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/11/06/eee-pc-...
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=875
Photo:
http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.4.html
http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:addrawphotoediting
On http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=775&a... cited above, someone writes
I've got a triple boot EEE (using an external USB HD) and its great. Xandros for web/portability. Kubuntu for clever stuff and XP to allow me to migrate my old laptop finance package over (and games ).
1) I was told that not all printers are Linux compatible which means that I might not be able to print with the printer I own.
2) I was also told that only certain flash drives are compatible with Linux so the flash drive i currently own may not operate. This is a very significant concern to me since it is important that i am able to transfer files to my primary computer.
3) I was told that this machine may or may not be able to network with my current home network. Does anyone know if I can add this device to my network at home?
4) Also does anyone know what the compatibility of the files created on the Linux Open Office is like with Microsoft office suite? I surely would need to open and edit documents with portability.
Thanks!
-e
Compatibility issues are "native" to Linux because hardware manufacturers do not usually post drivers for other OS than Windows. On the other hand, there is a community of some million users eager to solve any issues. I recently fully switched to Kubuntu (from XP) and solved all the compatibility issues googling arround. It took me no more than 20 min. to solve anything. I now have a dual boot with XP and, among other things, I share all the configurations for Thunderbird and Firefox in the two OS. Just googling arround...
As of Open Office (OOo), it's usually "almost full" MS Office compatible (it's always evolving and getting better). Not that I can say the same from MS Office. OOo can save your work in its native, and ISO standard, Open Document Format (ODF), or it can save it in .DOC format. Even more, you can tell OOo to fully forget about ODF and just always save in .DOC if you are a MS Office regular. I've been a full user of OOo in Windows and Linux for more than 4 years now and never found nothing so "bizarre" that OOo couldn't handle.
Regards,
J
Arrives next week...
I wonder whether my Huey would work on this - then I could calibrate my screen...
I get those messages when the wireless signal isn't strong enough. I know that it happens when signals are below 40%. Look at the signal strength, make sure the connection is unlocked, and see if that is a factor.
I haven't tried Starbucks and I'm not wireless at home.
I hope someone can help or guide me.
I'm shopping for something portable for:
1. Genealogy (family history)
2. Photos (Jpeg mostly)
3. Word/Excel documents
4. WiFi & Music would be a big PLUS!
I started looking into PDA's but ran across this product. At this point I'm not informed enough about either to make a proper decision.
I currently use Family Tree Maker 16 on my desktop. It has a Gedcom feature to download my data into a genealogy program on a handheld. I've found several genealogy programs online that can be download to PDA's but I don't know if they can be downloaded to this product too.
Family Tree Maker can also save my data into a PDF file.
Can anyone offer any help or suggestions?
Thanks,
Cary
Thanks, Kyle
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Currently selling at $399.99, it performs most of the tasks of a desktop computer but is extremely lightweight and portable. Emailing and web surfing is a breeze, as well as multimedia applications such as uploading photos and streaming video. It comes with a built-in web cam for capturing and streaming photos and a built-in wireless card that allows you to connect to your local hot spots.
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Anyone, please help me answer these questions. I really want to buy one but I am just kind of hesitant.
Does the U.S. version of Eee PC 4G capable of displaying and entering East Asian languages e.g., Traditional Chinese and Japanese?
I would very much like to read and write in those languages (in addition to English) in the OpenOffice documents and on the web pages.
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=14406
The topic started out with Japanese text support, but in the replies I also saw the screen shots that applied to other languages as well.
http://www.eeeuser.com/
i've got my asus eepc
installed windows xp opearting system...
then the i cant play songs anymore,
and i cant even use the webcam...
what am i supposed to do??
So far, no luck connecting to wifi at work, or around work.....
Taking back if no luck elsewhere...it is not as portable if it can't connect!
BUT I can't get onto my own home wireless network with it. I can get on to some nearby neighbor's, but not onto my own. It didn't work with a D-link router and it doesn't work with my new Apple Express. I have a desktop and another laptop that DO connect.
I don't know what a "pass phrase" is, so I don't know if mine has spaces.
I don't see how to change any settings for WEP or WPA thingies.
Can anyone give me an easy way to fix this?
PS to Cathy C: My eee came with Skype on it.
flashdrive gnetbook?